tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post4885746012845879231..comments2024-01-06T19:03:20.285-08:00Comments on Blue Sky Disney: A Fourth Of Liberty...Honor Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05346050126873050983noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-53097256306351149442011-07-10T07:44:38.828-07:002011-07-10T07:44:38.828-07:00I gather the guy from USAid picked up his usage fr...I gather the guy from USAid picked up his usage from conferences with people from Latin America who do say "hey, we're Americans to". I suspect it has to do with equality and equivalence, a desire to be recognized as people who matter on the same level as the United States because they live on the same continent.<br /><br />For them it works, I suppose. Canadians have a different issue. We are trying to assert our distinction from the United States... Equal sure, but not equivalent. Its a product of the incredible social and political pressure that the USA wields over Canada (considering that our whole country has the same population as California).<br /><br />I don't know if it's necessarily being "uninformed" as it is knowing who you are talking to and what is an appropriate way to talk to them.Cory Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12141983255020503557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-61903371039134123282011-07-09T08:17:27.518-07:002011-07-09T08:17:27.518-07:00You are correct, Cory...
I've gotten into sim...You are correct, Cory...<br /><br />I've gotten into similar conversations with uninformed people as well. For some reason they think you're slighting someone by saying that Americans are only from the USA. History would have taught them this.<br /><br />Had they read history...Honor Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346050126873050983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-19152558576242839992011-07-09T08:06:33.433-07:002011-07-09T08:06:33.433-07:00A few years ago I was part of a cross-cultural pra...A few years ago I was part of a cross-cultural practicum in Madagascar and we spent a day looking at the work being done by USAid. At one point the host made a remark about "Americans" and then stopped to correct himself, apologised and noted that meant the USA because Canadians are American too. As Canadians we all, to a one, looked at him like "what the Hell are you talking about?!?" Apparently he had been trained to think of "Americans" as being "North and South America" not as "United States of America". We informed him that in Canada, "American" is synonymous with the "United States of America" and to call a Canadian an "American" was actually an insult. So he apologised again.<br /><br />Anyways, that's the context in which I called it "America". To me, as a Canadian, "America" is a synonym/shortening of "United States of America".Cory Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12141983255020503557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-32601718326043842682011-07-08T15:18:27.383-07:002011-07-08T15:18:27.383-07:00July 4th is the USA's birthday, not America...July 4th is the USA's birthday, not America's. America had been around for 150 years, monarchy and then republic and then monarchy again, before the USA was founded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-1044823034337966182011-07-05T06:30:56.881-07:002011-07-05T06:30:56.881-07:00here here! God bless the U.S.Ahere here! God bless the U.S.ADrunkenMimenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-3227262626411670562011-07-04T21:45:21.945-07:002011-07-04T21:45:21.945-07:00It was July 2nd that was what most people thought ...It was July 2nd that was what most people thought would be celebrated, as that's when the vote for independence (the "Lee Resolution") occurred. The document was approved on the Fourth. The Constitution was in many parts of the country far too controversial to be celebrated.<br /><br />In any event, Washington's Birthday was probably the largest patriotic holiday up until about the middle of the 19th century, eclipsing even Independence Day.<br /><br />In another coincidence, James Monroe, the fifth president, a student of Jefferson, and the last president to see official military service in the Revolution (he served under Washington at Trenton), died on July 4th in 1831.Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-138886364274927642011-07-04T21:07:50.487-07:002011-07-04T21:07:50.487-07:00To get out my parade-raining hose, I am bothered a...To get out my parade-raining hose, I am bothered <i>as a Christian</i> to hear the name of God in connection with the United States or any country. <br /><br />The USA, like any country, is a human institution created and maintained through force. God has nothing to do with it, and if God wanted to create a State, He would have made Jesus a national ruler. He didn't, and for good reason. The freedoms and responsibilities that God places on humanity are different from, and frequently in opposition to, the privileges and prohibitions placed on us by the governments that have assumed leadership over us.<br /><br />America is a product of the Enlightenment and its documents are very much written from an Englightenment perspective. In that perspective, "God" is merely a metaphor for human entitlements. I can't think offhand of anything in the New Testament that would give someone the impression that they're entitled to carry weaponry for the express purpose of killing other people whose political views they disagree with, and I have a Masters in Theological Studies. Nevertheless your Second Amendment asserts that you have this right and it is given by "God".<br /><br />Unfortunately, a lot of theology coming out the United States takes this view of God as granted: as a metaphor for self-entitlements acted out primarily through the agency of the State. Relating to God as an actual Being revealled through the person of Christ rather than a declaration of war drafted by soldiers is far, far different.Cory Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12141983255020503557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-66631042922487856832011-07-04T20:47:35.009-07:002011-07-04T20:47:35.009-07:00Some of us prefer "Goddess-given"...Some of us prefer "Goddess-given"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-75933175137390282002011-07-04T20:19:19.001-07:002011-07-04T20:19:19.001-07:00Being a deist doesn't mean that they didn'...Being a deist doesn't mean that they didn't believe in the freedoms that God gave man, it just meant he didn't really meddle in the affairs of man, a "watch-maker" God of sorts. They took many ideas from religious writers who thought that God gave man these rights and to do right by him the nation needed to be created somewhat in his laws, whether it be Christian or not.TRONnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-27815467641663250162011-07-04T10:13:12.998-07:002011-07-04T10:13:12.998-07:00The quote "God-given" is correct, but Am...The quote "God-given" is correct, but America as an ideal was created by people, not by a supernatural being.Steve Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06229454499518088183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-20762013322781280912011-07-04T10:00:43.075-07:002011-07-04T10:00:43.075-07:00Not to get technical but many of the founding fath...Not to get technical but many of the founding fathers had no time for religion. They were men of the enlightenment, deists, who had no belief in the teachings of Christianity.Steve Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06229454499518088183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-89509077966625943372011-07-04T08:46:29.495-07:002011-07-04T08:46:29.495-07:00I would agree with Honor- and say God put the love...I would agree with Honor- and say God put the love and desire for freedom in our hearts. Man chooses "independence" from Him only to be held captive by self.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07165624045029517606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-81060456863973772562011-07-04T05:48:17.737-07:002011-07-04T05:48:17.737-07:00Created by men that believed in God and that our r...Created by men that believed in God and that our rights were granted to us from him, not other men.<br /><br />Hence men had no right to take those rights away. The Constitution was put together to restrain the government as to what it could do to us. God given is correct. Honor is totally right in this.Ben Franklinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-66502650486332923662011-07-04T01:50:57.205-07:002011-07-04T01:50:57.205-07:00Happy 4th July folks. A nice message marred only b...Happy 4th July folks. A nice message marred only by the religious references; America was created by people, not God.Steve Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06229454499518088183noreply@blogger.com