tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post6960947252458949403..comments2024-01-06T19:03:20.285-08:00Comments on Blue Sky Disney: Shanghide And Seek...Honor Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05346050126873050983noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-51444601178624345982011-05-20T22:20:19.056-07:002011-05-20T22:20:19.056-07:00“Theme parks are like Aircraft Carriers in that th...<i>“Theme parks are like Aircraft Carriers in that the actual construction process is very long and complicated - about 4 years. The planning is done for years in advance. Of course things can and will change, but I imagine most of the park is fairly "nailed down" and architects are currently busy drafting blueprints of various buildings, rides, etc. (which will go through iterations - look at Mermaid Blue Sky Cellar for an example of this).”</i><br /><br />Looks like the “lost comments” have been returned. Yesterday there were seven comments, now we’re up to fourteen with no new ones being posted<br /><br />As for the Shanghai park, yes, “pre development” takes a lot of time. I believe they have been pitching the project to the Chinese government for around ten years now. But very little is actually “nailed down” the only elements that they have any blueprints on are the clone projects that they just have to convert the drawings for. Most of the concept art and models were true blue-sky level pitch versions that have a lot of development to deal with before they can begin actual blueprints.<br /><br />Then they have to deal with budget reality hits, when they will have to deal with de-scoping while trying to maintain some semblance of the design they initially pitched.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-85592232902263629772011-05-16T13:19:58.225-07:002011-05-16T13:19:58.225-07:00Oh, I'll rant... and rant! TWDC is (by far) th...Oh, I'll rant... and rant! TWDC is (by far) the most dysfunctional company I've ever worked for. This is one of the reasons why they've had the huge problems that they have had in the last 15 years. By all means, chalk it up to the useless Eisner because sh...(bleep) runs downhill. But he wasn't the only idiot under the ears of that place. When DCA opened to yawns and mass disapointment, they could've changed the momentum they had on DSP and HKDL to prevent those debacles as well; but they did not. TWDC is continuing to lose ground for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is the theme parks division. Meanwhile, their competitors will continue to gain ground as they continue to move forward exploring new properties with flexibility and innovation instead relying on stale, fool-hardy models that seek tp empty their blinded fan/customer/guest's pockets with their tired, redundant assets. TWDC's diminishment is the most entertaining feat that they've produced in decades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-21226310542421565942011-05-14T16:17:52.300-07:002011-05-14T16:17:52.300-07:00Reprise of lost comment:
It may be possible that ...Reprise of lost comment:<br /><br />It may be possible that the current less-than-detailed renderings of Shanghai Disneyland are being used as a buffer. <br /><br />The renderings and models Imagineering produced to pitch their concept to the Chinese government were probably a lot more detailed and expansive than what they will eventually be able to produce.<br /><br />So, maybe the lo-res stuff we are seeing is being used to soften the difference between what the Chinese saw and what they'll eventually get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-77758577091611535162011-05-14T10:48:14.211-07:002011-05-14T10:48:14.211-07:00WDI is very smart to keep everything under wraps. ...WDI is very smart to keep everything under wraps. The Chinese are notorious for copying other company's R&D and making cheap rip-offs. If Disney wants something unique, at least for one year, they will keep it secret.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-84912371276569587452011-05-13T23:56:13.716-07:002011-05-13T23:56:13.716-07:00Don't know...
I've put up all the ones th...Don't know...<br /><br />I've put up all the ones that were posted. Blogger was out for the entire day and several supposedly sites lost certain data. If that happened, I'm not sure. Nothing has been deleted by myself or anyone here.<br /><br />Move along, nothing to see here...Honor Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346050126873050983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-6336490919883887042011-05-13T22:48:29.253-07:002011-05-13T22:48:29.253-07:00What happened to the discussions for this post? We...What happened to the discussions for this post? Weren't there eight comments here yesterday?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-3210717744149405982011-05-13T14:35:59.452-07:002011-05-13T14:35:59.452-07:00If you look at the first Imagineering book (publis...If you look at the first Imagineering book (published in 1995) you'll see a detailed model of DisneySea that is very close to what opened six years later. So while things are always in a certain degree of flux at WDI, the bluesky early phases for Shanghai are long completed, and there are no doubt similar models already fabricated for Shanghai (along with tons of artwork) that were used in the selling the park the Chinese. <br /><br />Theme parks are like Aircraft Carriers in that the actual construction process is very long and complicated - about 4 years. The planning is done for years in advance. Of course things can and will change, but I imagine most of the park is fairly "nailed down" and architects are currently busy drafting blueprints of various buildings, rides, etc. (which will go through iterations - look at Mermaid Blue Sky Cellar for an example of this).Randynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-82228617841765938082011-05-12T11:08:08.178-07:002011-05-12T11:08:08.178-07:00I still don't get what this "look" i...I still don't get what this "look" is really about. Is there a way of arranging Disney's look so HKDL is unique so the competition can copy it and we know its HKDL's look and no other park?<br /><br />It sounds so strange that it might be true. Or Disney could be paranoid and vain.Copy_Thisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-73869737714111181142011-05-12T10:18:15.417-07:002011-05-12T10:18:15.417-07:00My bet is that we'll learn more about Shanghai...My bet is that we'll learn more about Shanghai attractions at the D23 Convention this Summer. Hoping so at least!DisneyanaFannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-52331289385645902222011-05-12T09:36:24.755-07:002011-05-12T09:36:24.755-07:00The reason he put Weiss on is because he is the ex...The reason he put Weiss on is because he is the exec in charge of Shanghai Disneyland. He is still supervising DCA, but that project is winding down.Hank Tagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-14508784447386964732011-05-12T08:53:32.771-07:002011-05-12T08:53:32.771-07:00Well, that's weird. You show Bob Weis' na...Well, that's weird. You show Bob Weis' name tag, but then you didn't mention him. I thought he was handling the DCA makeover.bobdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-11920957506268211482011-05-11T20:57:20.233-07:002011-05-11T20:57:20.233-07:00I think that the recently released artwork is bein...I think that the recently released artwork is being used as kind of a buffer. The amount and originality of artwork and models used to pitch the park to the Chinese government was WAY more detailed and in depth than what we are seeing now. unfortunately, what they promoted to them is probably way beyond what they could actually provide. <br /><br />So recent artwork is purposely low key to soften the difference between what they pitched and what they will eventually be delivering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-77230126498102767592011-05-11T20:39:46.320-07:002011-05-11T20:39:46.320-07:00That is not true, I did not!That is not true, I did not!Tha Head Cheesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-13362441986953358772011-05-11T18:37:13.869-07:002011-05-11T18:37:13.869-07:00Time is drawing near when the head cheese himself ...Time is drawing near when the head cheese himself will green light or veto the existing plans.Agent Mousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5244647450237014911.post-2766429883012050272011-05-11T15:18:11.280-07:002011-05-11T15:18:11.280-07:00Wait. SDL is getting a mountain ride?!!! Like GR...Wait. SDL is getting a mountain ride?!!! Like GRR or Splash? Will there be animatronics? I MUST KNOW!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com